Saturday, January 14, 2012

Was it a sin for Jesus Christ to curse the fig tree and kill it?

Did Jesus err in cursing a fig tree which did not have any fruit on it?



Did he require a permit from the local tree board in Jerusalem, Israel, to legally cut the tree down?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbor_Day

Was it a sin for Jesus Christ to curse the fig tree and kill it?
The incident of the fig tree is something I found very interesting when ever we covered it in religion class. My POV was that it was a childish, spiteful display of power. I also thought that it was completely out of character and that led me to wondering how much of what I was being taught was true.
Reply:sounds like an anger issue to me
Reply:He was a carpenter, so sometimes he needed some wood, but usually too busy doing sermons to do carpentry. I don't think he cut this one down though...he left it for another carpenter to use later...
Reply:Yes, it was wrong of Jesus to do that. Seems like he had a short fuse at the time.
Reply:Jesus is sinless. Does the Potter have a right to destroy the pot that he made out of clay because he doesn't like it?



God didn't like the way He created that tree because when He walked the earth and needed fruit it had none to offer so He destroyed it. It is His tree and it was His to destroy.



Do you know a man that could have stopped him? I certainly don't. That man has never lived.
Reply:Not guilty by reason of insanity.
Reply:I think he did that to tell us that if we don't bear fruit we are going to dry up.
Reply:Sorry....those links are too long to read.







As a person with no real religious background (I am not anti-God....I just don't care to know him intimately like some) I have to say that maybe Wikipedia may not be the best place to get reliable information on some subjects (ESPECIALLY religion)...it IS written by laymen, you know! I have read MANY entries riddles with errors...perhaps you should consult a pastor or someone who you know FOR SURE can answer your question instead of tripping out onto the web....oh, and also call a tree doctor.
Reply:The story is a parable.
Reply:No. Jesus is the Lord of the vineyard (Mk. 12:9), and the righteous Judge (2Tim. 4:2), and has that prerogative, and Israel was manifestly worthy of such (Lk,. 19:41-44). And His "permit" came from above. But yet God has not utterly forsaken the "natural seed" of Abraham, and will open their eyes (what's left of them) when the fulness of the Gentiles be come in (Rm. 11). http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/isr...



And He that served others selflessly and sinlessly, and then died for us and rose again to save sinners, also is "ordained of God to be the Judge of living and dead" (Acts 10:42), and has "the keys of hell and of death" (Rev. 1:8).



(Acts 3:19) "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord."
Reply:Nope. He created it, He can kill it.
Reply:No.



Mar 11:13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.

Mar 11:14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.



Christ saw the fig tree (Israel) a far off (in the future).

May 15, 1948 the nation of Israel was SET UP.

The nation of Israel has produced no fruit (spiritually).



SET UP

Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.



LITTLE HORN

Dan 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
Reply:I doubt that it would be considered a sin, but it was very "teenager-like" of him.
Reply:The figs were out of season, so he got mad and cursed the tree to death.



Real mature there, dude. Yeah, one could call that a "sin" if you define a "sin" as a mistake.
Reply:Interestingly enough, there is a passage in Deuteronomy, in the Torah (Old Testament) that states cutting down a fruit tree that still bears fruit will cause G-d to curse the person who cuts down the tree. This was a statement of Moses prior to entering the land of Israel while the Israelites were still in Moab.
Reply:The presence of a fruitful fig tree was considered to be a symbol of blessing and prosperity for the nation of Israel. Likewise, the absence or death of a fig tree would symbolize judgment and rejection. Symbolically, the fig tree represented the spiritual deadness of Israel, who while very religious outwardly with all the sacrifices and ceremonies, were spiritually barren because of their sins. By cleansing the Temple and cursing the fig tree, causing it to whither and die, Jesus was pronouncing His coming judgment of Israel and demonstrating His power to carry it out. It also teaches the principle that religious profession and observance is not enough to guarantee salvation, unless there is the fruit of genuine salvation evidence in the life of the person. James would later echo this truth when he wrote that “faith without works is dead” (James 2:26). The lesson of the fig tree is that we should bear spiritual fruit (Galatians 5:22-23), not just give an appearance of religiosity. God judges fruitlessness, and expects that those who have a relationship with Him will “bear much fruit” (John 15:5-8).
Reply:There was a reason behind it, I'm not going into it, he was a teacher teaching something important about Jerusalem. Of course, a lot of people hated him over things like this, that's why he was cruicified.
Reply:Yeah, that's why he keeps missing his return engagements. He's still serving out his sentence in Hell. OOPSIE!







To jeancomm: Do you not see how stupid that statement is? You're saying that your OMNIPOTENT god needed some fruit one day, and had to find a tree to get some? Why not just pluck one from thin air? Or rain down some manna? Or just wish himself not hungry?
Reply:Perhaps the fig tree was a symbol for Israel, which was not bearing any fruit. In Revelations the redemption of Israel is dealt with again.
Reply:Beloved , believe not every spirit , but test the spirits whether they are of God , because many false prophets are gone out into the world
Reply:He killed a living thing? he's not god. If he were he'd make it produce by speaking to it or something.
Reply:Jesus was sinless!
Reply:if i build a house, and pay for all the materials, is it wrong of me to tear it down if it fails to please me? If i am an employer can i not fire a lazy employee? if i am a creator of worlds can i not destro a tree? trees die every day..is it Gods fault? If God is at fault for killing one barren fig tree then surely we are not blameless for tearing down rain forests. you cannot criticize an him for killing a tree without being compelled by logic to then praise him for healing lepers and raising the dead. after all..it is all from the same account. you cannot chose to use one example and ignore the rest
Reply:Jesus never sinned
Reply:Worrying about whether Jesus sinned our not is only important if your a legalist believing that if Jesus did sin then Christianity falls apart or something. None of that would be true. Trying to make Christianity about the the law is a back door way of giving religion fuel to persecute those who break the law of the day.



Jesus became sin for us the Bible says. He is sin. Does it matter where the sin came from? He is it. If it is true at any moment in time it is true for eternity. He has always been sin - even before the foundation of the world and always will be sin.
Reply:No, it was his tree, his planet, his universe. He can do what he wants with it.

Besides, it represented the fate of those who fail to believe in him.


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